Showing posts with label kotowaru. Show all posts
Showing posts with label kotowaru. Show all posts

Thursday, September 25, 2008

08.09.25 Chapter5

08.09.25 第五課 誘う と 断る
Chapter5: More sasou and kotowaru
With
Uemura-sensei

GRAMMAR NOTE 1:
Recall that the plain/simple way to say "to give (some NOUN to ME)" is kureru.
The simple way to say I/ME/WE "receive (some NOUN)" is morau.

私は友達に貰いました。
Watashi wa tomodachi ni moraimashita.

I received (something) from my friend.

vs.

友達は私に呉れました。
Tomodachi wa watashi ni kuremashita.

My friend gave me (something).

NOTE: both VERBS take the PARTICLE NI, but the receiver (I/me) is marked by "wa" or "ni".


ADJective/ADVerb USAGE NOTES:
tagaru na NOUN ===> . Easy to get/access NOUN
tagaru ni VERB ===> Easy to do VERB
tagaru ===> v. to be easy

GRAMMAR NOTE2:
A simple way to say "Thanks to A(phrase or NOUN), V(past) is to use "no okage de".
ブログのおかげで、言葉の意味を習いました。
Blog NO OKAGEDE, kotoba no imi wo naraimashita.

THANKS TO the blog, I have learned word meanings.

GRAMMAR POINT:
To say: "In spite of A(phrase indicating some great effort), B(phrase indicating something else happened)", you use the FORM:

SEKKAKU ~A(phrase) noni, ~B(phrase).
せっかく ~A(phrase) のに、~B(phrase)。

In spite of ~A(phrase Vplain), ~B(phrase Vpast or Vplain)
WHERE: A(phrase) contains a VERB in plain form) and B(phrase) can contain a VERB in past or plain form.

NOTE: This gave us a lot of grief in class, because the in-book example's 2nd clause is not in past tense.

Examples:
せっかく郵便局に行ったのに、営業中もう終わっていました。
Sekkaku yuubinkyoku ni itta noni, eigyouchuu mou owatte imashita.
In spite of going to the post office, it was already closed for business.

GRAMMAR POINT2:
To formally convey your (positive) hopes and dreams to others, you can use this FORM.

V(plain past)+ら、{気持ち} と思っております。
V(plain past)+ra {some feeling/outcome} to omotte imasu/orimasu.

where, the positive feeling in curly brackets above can be omitted.
Example:
Oai dekitara {ureshii} to omotte orimasu.
I hope to meet (with you), {making me happy}.

Victor's Negative feeling example:
もし犬死んだら悲しいと思っています。
Moshi inu shindara kanashii to omotte imasu.
If my dog dies, I think I would be sad.
;

Wednesday, September 24, 2008

08.09.22 Chapter 4: Kyoka wo Morau, Chapter 5: Sasou to Kotowaru

08.09.22 : Daiyokka: Kyoka wo Morau, Daigoka: Sasou to Kotowaru
Chapter 4: To get Permission
Chapter 5: To invite and To decline/to refuse
Suzuki-sensei no jyugyo desu.

GRAMMAR POINT 1: (from Chapter 4: Kyoka wo morau)
不可欠 fukaketsu (na) de aru === fukaketsu desu

Means: It's indispensable. It's essential.

RULE: When reading or writing a formal document/publication (i.e. not this blog), you would use "de aru" instead of "desu".
NOUN/na-adj. + "de aru".
Example with NOUN:
Neko de aru.
Example with na-adj: Kirei de aru (no "na" used here).
i-adj. Example: Kawaii (does not take "de aru").
VERB(plain form/dictionary form). Example: Taberu (does not take "de aru").

Exercise 1 on Page 62 was to figure out which was the written and which was spoken. Spoken sentences do not take "de aru".
Numbers 1) and 3) were spoken. You could tell because:
in 1) "kudasai" is a request to someone else.
in 3) "Hajimemashite" is spoken only when meeting someone for the first time.

Here are the Romaji versions of sentences 1) and 3) from Page 62, Excercise 1:
1) Kono kigai wo tsukau toki ni ha jyuu pun ki wo tsukete kudasai. Machigaeru to kiken desu.
ENGLISH: Take care/Be careful to use this machine for 10 minutes at a time. If you make a mistake, it is dangerous.
3) Hajimemashite. Watashi ha chuugoku no Lee desu. Shanhai (Shanghai) kara mairimashita.
ENGLISH: Hello, I'm pleased to meat you. I am China's Lee. I came from Shanghai.

Here are the Romaji changed versions of sentences 2) and 4) from Page 62, Excercise 1:
(We are assuming that we need to write this to put into a formal document)
2) Genzai sekai de motto mo jinkou ga ooi kuni ha chuugoku de aru (from "desu). Tsugi ni Indo, Amerika to tsuzuku (from "tsuzukimasu").
ENGLISH: In the recent world, the country with the highest population is China. Next is India, America and so on.
4) ATC ha, zeihin no nana wari wo kaigai e yushutxu shite iru jidousha me-ka- de aru (from "desu"). Honsha ha Oosaka ni aru (from "arimasu").
ENGLISH: As for ATC, 70 percent of its products are exports to other countries' automotive manufacturers. The head office is in Osaka.

NOTE: 7
割引 == 70 percent off, 3割引 == 30 percent discount

??? Then we had the following Example sentences that I now can't understand or put into context --- HELP!!! Tasukete Kudasai!!!
Watashi ni ikasete hoshii.
Mark-san ni itte hoshii.


What does the above mean? Need translation PLEASE>

GRAMMAR POINT 2: (from Chapter 5) A SENTENCE STRUCTURE TO INVITE S/O OUT
When inviting someone to something verbally, there are various levels of politeness forms:

casual: "Isshoni V(volitional)". E.g. Isshoni ikou! Let's go!
teinei: "Isshoni V(te) itadakenai deshou ka?". E.g. Isshoni itte itadakenai deshou ka? Won't you give me the pleasure of going with me?
neutral: "Isshoni V(masen) ka?" E.g. Isshoni ikimasen ka? Won't you go with me?

GRAMMAR POINT 3: Tashika, "tashika ni" ha "zettai" tte iu imi deshita ne?
POINT: The diff between "tashika NI" and just plain old "tashika"

tashika NI === zettai === for certain; absolutely sure
tashika === "If I remember correctly..."; must be used with a V(past form).

VERB: 空く aite iru (to have free time; to be open/available/vacant)
E.g. Aiteru === Are you free?
Aite nai === Aren't you free?


VERB:
楽しむ TANOSHIMU (to enjoy, to have fun)
Volitional Plain: Tanoshimashou!!
Volitional Polite: Tanoshimou!!

GRAMMAR POINT 4:
終助詞 SHUUJOSHI (Grammar particle that ends a sentence)
Teinei (polite) sentence ending particles. These must be used with "desu", or a "-masu" form VERB: (Where Person A is speaking to Person B, who is listening).
a) yo! ===> used for exclamation/confirm. A knows s/th but B does not yet know this info.
b) ne! ===> used to confirm. Both A and B knows the info, i.e. for "shared info"
c) yo ne! ===> A wants a confirmation from listener B.

Futsuu (plain) spoken sentence ending particles. These ones are used with plain form VERBS:
d) naa ===> To emphasize "I truly feel".
e) kana ===> Means "I wonder..."
In d) and e) above, the speaker may be thinking aloud to himself/herself.

08.09.24 Chapter 5: sasou to kotawaru; page 75 shukudai desu

shukudai: Chapter 5, page 75, Exercise 2:

REI) Otouto ha mae kara amerika dw benkyou shiTAGATTE IRU.
1) Imouto ha amaimono wo miru to, (a.) tabeTAGARU.
2) Tsuma ha mae kara nihon e (b.) kiTAGATTE IRU.
3) Lee-san ha natsuyasumi Hokkaidou e (b.) ikiTAGATTE IRU.
4) Watashi no kodomo ha omocha uriba e iku to, sugu iroiro (a.) hoshiGARU node, komaru.


TRANSLATION:
EXAMPLE) My younger brother wants to study before going to Amerika.
1) If my little sister sees sweets, she wants to eat them.
Answer is (a.), because this is habitual.
2) My wife wants to come to Japan from before.
Answer is (b.) because this is a state.
3) Lee-san wants to go to Hokkaidou for summer vacation.
Answer is (b.) because Lee-san wants this as a one time event.
4) If my child goes to a place where they sell "Omocha?", it causes (my child) to soon want various things, it is a problem.
Answer is (a.) because this is a habit.

08.09.24 Chapter 5: sasou to kotawaru; to invite and to refuse

08.09.24 Daigoka: sasou to kotawaru
Chapter 5: to invite and to refuse
Wednesday lesson with IsonoSensei.

I showed up late to the class today. Apparently PRICK-san was reallied worried and leapt with joy when TangoMaster arrived ahead of me.

Here's the Grammar Points from Today's class:

GRAMMAR POINT 1:
Ways to invite, without actually coming right out and asking, only thinking aloud to yourself...

Grammar Point 1A
V(plain form)~n da kedo, isshoni dou kana to omotte...?

OR

Grammar Point 1B
N de mo (isshoni) dou desu ka?

Examples for 1A and 1B
J-Liigu no kippu ga ni mai aru n da kedo, isshoni dou kana to omotte...

Shokuji de mo isshoni dou desu ka?


GRAMMAR POINT 2: How to say SOMEONE ELSE wantS to do some VERB
When you want to say that someone else wants to do some Verb, you use the form:

V(-masu stem) + TAGARU (conjugate like normal RU Type II verb).

RECALL, when saying I want to do something, you use:
V(-masu stem) + TAI (conjugate like any i-adj).

Examples:
Kodomo-tachi mo Lee-san ni totemo aiTAGATTE IMASU.
Watashi wa Lee-san ni totemo aiTAI desu.

Page 75, Yomou no renshuu, Exercise 1, Verbal class responses, written here:
1) Watashi ha hotel ni tomariTAI kedo, Haha ha ryoukan ni tomariTAGATTE IRU n da.
2) Boku ha chuuka ryouri ni shiTAI kedo, Ogawa-san ha Washoku ryouri ni shiTAGATTE IRU n da.
3) Boku ha inaka ni sumiTAI kedo, tsuma ha tokai ni sumiTAGATTE IRU n da.
4) Boku ha pasukon wo kaiTAI kedo, tsuma ha reisouko wo kaiTAGATTE IRU n da.


English translations:
1) I want to stay at a hotel but, my mom is wanting to stay at a ryoukan.
2) I want to make Chinese food, but Ogawa-san is wanting to make Japanese food.
3) I want to live in the country but my wife is wanting to live in the city.
4) I want to buy a computer, but my wife is wanting to buy a refridgerator.

REVIEW OF NARA CONDITIONAL:

MOSHI V(dictionary/plain form) NARA ~~ ===> If V(plain form), then~~

NOTE for IF'ing Nouns, the form to use is:
N NARA ~~~ ===> IF ~something~ THEN ~~~

Monday, September 22, 2008

08.09.22 何か書かせていただけないでしょうか。

Hello and こんにちは, I am VS, はじめまして。

For some reason -which is a mystery to me- I've been appointed as the lazy one in class and this blog as well; but the fact is that whenever I want to contribute with something, it has already been added...

We have a main blogger (Jojo -I'm sure you hate that-) and a vocab maestro (Mark) with probably too much time on their hands ; ) so due to a lack of open positions I've decided to declare myself the official "Proof-Reading Intermediate Course Kakikomu" (書き込む = fill in writing) or, as I'm sure some would prefer to call me from now on, "PRICK".

Hence, as the name states, my duties would be to go through the posts and point out what I would consider errors, mistakes, slips, lapses, etc. and add any extra or useful information. Since I'm not in a position to edit my peers' posts, I shall do this in the form of comments. This should be fun, at least for me :)

For now I will leave you with the latest homework:


宿題 (しゅくだい)

会話2 68ページ 仕事の後、飲み屋の前で (しごとのあと、のみやのまえで)


遠慮する 「えんりょする」 -> Refrain. Similar to 断る 「ことわる」。 Decline an invitation.

ー軒 「いっけん」 「けん」 -> (Ken) Counter for door/house. (e.g. one house, Ikken)

飲みすぎなんで・・・ 「のみすぎなんで」 -> Drank to much so/and... のみすぎ is the short form of 飲みすぎます. すぎます or すぎ is added at the end of the pre-masu form of the verb to express excess. (e.g. 食べすぎました -ate to much- 大きすぎ、-too big). なんで・・・ is used to indicate a continuation or unfinished thought; same as (V)て form.

機会 「きかい」 -> Opportunity, chance.

お先に 「おさきに」 -> Ahead. Varies by context. (e.g. お先にどうぞ -go ahead-、  お先に失礼(しつれい)します -excuse me for leaving ahead (of you).


Maybe you guys knew these already, but since I don't know what the learning purpose of this homework is...

The last one, for example, I, and everyone else in the office, use it almost every day when leaving work while there are still people working.

So this is me for now. With all my pains, please correct me if there was something wrong.

よろしくね~